Dharma Sunday (10/19) Taking Appearances as the Path–The Ninth Karmapa’s Four-Step Analysis for Cutting through the Illusion of “Things” (Online)

With Doug Veenhof

October 19, 2025

Date and Time Details: Oct. 19, 2025, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET. Please plan to join the session early, since meditation begins promptly at 10:00 am. You can use this time zone converter to determine the start time at your home.

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10:00 am  – 12:00 pm ET


In his sublime meditation manual Mahamudra the Ocean of Definitive Meaning, the Ninth Karmapa briefly describes a four-step analysis for cutting through the illusion of a separate external reality presenting itself to sense perception. This session will examine the four steps and draw on insights from current cognitive philosophy and physics to offer a simple but powerful approach to challenge the basic mistake that incites mental afflictions.


Natural Dharma Fellowship’s Dharma Sundays are donation-based gatherings open to all, offering a wide range of topics. Led by highly trained NDF Dharma and guest teachers, these live, interactive sessions include guided meditation, teachings, and time for questions and discussion. Please join us to settle into the support of sangha and the joy of practicing together.

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About the Teacher

Doug Veenhof

Doug Veenhof has been leading meditation retreats of a week to two months in length for fifteen years in Asia, North America, and Europe (including several five-day retreats at Wonderwell). He is a resident teacher at the Center for Contemplative Research in Crestone, Colorado where he recently completed a one-year solitary shamatha retreat in the […]

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